You'd need complex genjutsu that a Sharingan couldn't see through. I have to ask a few things because I don't remember if you made up excuses for them yet.
First, if Haku's kimono were really a girl's kimono and Haku were really a girl pretending to be a boy, why is Haku trying to dress like a girl? If you're trying to avoid attraction from boys, the easiest way is to not get all primped and primed.
If you're trying to fool people into thinking you're a boy, the easiest way is to dress and look like a boy. For anything to make sense, you'd have to conclude that either Haku wasn't dressing like a girl, Haku was a boy, or both. Sorry, you can't make up a cake and then make up another cake and have both of them.
Second, why does Zabuza keep referring to Haku as a boy after Haku's dead and when Zabuza is dying? Still trying to hide from hunter-nin? He couldn't control himself out of habit? Not very characteristic of a talented ninja or someone who's given up. Third, while we're mentioning the original, why did Haku say "boku" the male way of referring to yourself in Japanese before he knew Zabuza episode 17?
He knew the future and said it for hunter-nin? He saw Zabuza as an enemy? Lastly, why, even when he had already given up because Naruto was overpowering him, did he continue the "ruse"?
He didn't really give up, so he said it for the hunter-nin? We heard his thoughts and we saw what he did; he gave up and wanted to die because he believed he failed Zabuza. There'd be no point in continuing the "lie". The edge of that V shape is actually in the middle or bottom of the two spiral patterns on each side of the kimono. This is the same pose, only shot at a different angle! Spoiler :. I don't know if it's really a spoiler, but it's not the last time he does it and he's not even the only person who gets fooled.
About what? The manga image of Haku where her chest is cut off by the bottom of the page? Or do you mean the fact that the manga's kimono has a different design than the anime? Who ever said that the Sharingan could see a person's true gender?
Plus, even if it could, who says that Haku did not have her eyes closed so that the Sharingan would not work on her? See, you simply have to think the issue through very carefully. Don't just go by what someone told you. If you did that, Orochimaru would be a girl, Sasuke would be dead because of Haku's senbon, Hinata would be worthless and weak, and Might Guy would actually be one up on Kakashi. So if they say Haku is a hunter-nin, she's a hunter-nin.
I don't see how this can be compared to Ino's "pants. I doubt he or anyone uses it as an undergarment. Unless you want to think Neji's wearing that bandage down his leg to hide an extremely long penis, there's no reason to assume they use bandages as clothing.
First, if you want to infer anything from what Haku said and did, you should've inferred that Haku didn't train hard at all. He even asked Naruto why he kept training even though he looked like he was strong enough. We know Haku was strong enough to fight high-level ninja, so he might have said that because he stopped training. We know that Haku didn't train hard while Zabuza and Kakashi were recovering because he let Sasuke get too close to getting to him.
Even if he did train a lot and he were a girl, there'd be a little cleavage from pectoral muscles. You can't claim the Adam's apple thing because he usually had a choker on and, usually, artists don't bother to draw one. First, she is not "very flat". She doesn't have Tsunade knockers, but she clearly has breasts.
On top of that, if you didn't notice, it snowed and she looks like she's wearing a pretty thick sweater. Anyone who's worn a kimono or any similar type of clothing would know what the reason is behind the V not being consistent.
I used to practice Karate and wore a karategi; when you put it on, you're standing up and the V won't look open. Since it's held tight at the waist by a belt, when bending over, the flaps will bend any way they want to, including, but not limited to, opening out wide and making the V look longer. You'll notice that, in the "contradicting" angle you showed, the shot is from the side that the top flap is, making it possible and likely that the top looks like it's covering more from that angle.
Naruto can be right in front of someone and still get the person's sex wrong. Saosin Banned. This topic is still going on? Saosin said:. Andre Uchiha Hatake said:. Really is he gay or what! He did? I didn't see him trying to get boobs and a vagina. Aside from having a beautiful face, he also possesses long hair to make him look like a girl.
Additionally, he also has pale skin, which might add up to the quality of his beautiful appearance.
Lastly, to make him appear like a female, Haku also has a slender body that matches his delicate-looking face. His way of clothing also made him seem like a female.
First, his ninja outfit is the standard pinstriped outfit used by most Hidden Mist Ninja, where Haku is a member. He also wears a green haori over it, along with a brown sash at his back, which has a fringed trail design.
Additionally, when not in his shinobi attire, when he was in the forest picking medicinal plants, Kahu was wearing a pink outfit. This girly outfit is a pink sleeveless kimono. Knowing that kimonos are what Japanese girls wear, it just shows that Haku has already lived up to pretend to be a girl simply because of his feminine looks. Additionally, the design of the outfits that he wears fits him perfectly outside and inside of battle.
But in terms of character, Haku is very far from being female. Though he is not the type of person who acts too manly and would have the character of a kind-hearted and caring boy towards people, Haku never acted like a woman at all. Though his fighting style looks better to be used by a kunoichi, Haku still acts like a man when in battle. Fic Request. Chihiro is a ten-year-old girl who has brown hair, brown eyes, and rosy cheeks.
Haku first appears as a boy of about sixteen, but he is actually a lost river spirit that also can take the form of a white dragon. Make no mistake, Haku is an attractive character that fooled many men into liking him. In his guise as a white dragon his appearance suggests a river: flowing and graceful. Hohsaluh Pawiti sampitisisu-ne. Hakuya sintokosine ast RamasanaL haku? He is the apprentice to Yubaba, learning magic from her because of this we find out that Yubaba has stole his identity just like Chihiro.
I frowned and looked at Haku. Found inside — Page Haku tries to help Chihiro free her parents and escape the world of the spirits, but first the young girl must work for Yubaba, who takes her name away from So yeah, it's probably for humour.
In the village of Konohagakure, school is literally a battlefield where classmates are ninjas in training competing to become the greatest ninja in the land. He is her henchman and must do as he is told. Confused then they both then started to glare at one another. Showing the panel [Image] Storyboard of a hand. With the younger characters you can't see the sexism. It all lies in the older characters.
If you notice, the majority of older male characters are While in the process of moving to a new town, Chihiro and her parents stumble into the spirit world by accident. Which character is the best looking? Was Haku originally a girl? Kishimoto made Haku look like a girl because he wanted the male audience of the series to question our sexuality when we find out he's a guy.
His face and expressions are often cold and hardened- almost to the point of seeming stoic or emotionless, though this seems to change around a young human girl by the name of Chihiro Ogino. That's what I think, but I'm not for sure, I don't think anyone does.
Is Haku a Boy or Girl. There are androgynous characters in every anime. Her story begins when she awakens above The Hokage Monument in … I agree with JNat's answer based on the premise that I thought that Haku was a girl from day one. When Haku announced to Naruto that he was a boy when they met in the forest, Naruto freaked out a bit. Haku was born in a very small village where a recent war took place. Actually I thought the child Haku looked a little more boyish.
But with logic. Do you think Haku had pretty nails? One thing that never changes is its height and the sound it makes. A girl at his school, Saeki Nanako, is his muse and his Venus, and he admires her from a distance. And Sasuke. She wanted to die at hands of someone she loved. I doubt Zabuza and Haku have enough money for the operation. So then we get to make a bunch of memes about Hinata like in pain and crying. Haku looks a few good years older than his physical age, giving him that aura of maturity as well as mystery the other spirits seemed to despise.
They're just friends. Not "Haku has feelings! Found inside — Page Tafia did not like people fussing with her hair, but she was suffering the girls' fooling with it in return for their modeling. She never let Wittman look Found insideWhat are we supposed to do about this thing?
It looked familiar. Found inside — Page Haku takes her to the now dry riverbed and vows to meet her again. That is the entire point of his scene with Naruto, as Naruto serves as the audience surrogate who falsely believes Haku is female because of his attractiveness, style of dress and soft spoken nature. DDP def. It was definitely a romantic love relationship, though pretty one-sided up until the end. The way two men are presented in yaoi, we always get an o Found inside — Page Orochimaru x 10 Be more like a girl!
Sakura vs. Haku x There are a dozen other series I've watched where the young characters have been referred to as Oto, or Man. Just because a character says they are a man, instead of a boy, doesn't mean they are a girl.
Quite blatantly, even myself a few years ago, I would have referred to myself as a Man instead of calling myself a Boy, or kid. It's just a human trait of not wanting to be looked down upon.
Mixed in with the fact that Haku's maturity as a Ninja could be considered Manhood. You say that Deception is the reason that he would tell Naruto he was a man.
However Deception supports him being a man more. His entire looks contradicts his real gender. He acts like a girl when he's really a guy to deceive his enemies and make them think he's weak and vulnerable.
Then you say that Haku wouldn't tell his real Gender to Naruto because it would be giving up information to his enemies. Well, you completely ignore the fact that Naruto has no clue that Haku is the same Ninja that he fought. He doesn't even know who Haku is, or that the boy in front of him that looks like a girl is a Ninja at all. So Haku can freely give out his gender, because it can't be associated with him as a ninja.
Then you say that Haku as a Guy wouldn't be drawn with a girl body as his real body. When there are people like that in real life, and it's not uncommon in anime Fruits Basket has two men that have a strong feminine look, Happiness! You use assumptions that because you say that " So Haku being homosexual is very unlikely Firstly, this is a North American view.
Japanese society is not as skittish about things as we are Note how we use the terms Bathroom, Washroom, and Restroom, when nearly every other language uses "Toilet" , so there is less controversy on this topic. But here's the main thing, if Masashi Kishimoto were going to avoid the note of people who could be gay , then he wouldn't include the blatant acts, and focus around perversion.
Recall the Sexy jutsu and Jirya being a pervert. Those are far worse than two characters who could be grouped together like how we have NarutoXSakura, except in a gay way. Masashi Kishimoto doesn't make anything outright about them aimed at a relation. Just the normal subtle things you would get in any of these types of series. Now off the topic of that fanthread there are some things to address. There are a number of generally adopted Wikipedia policies that we like to go by in an unwritten way.
This is starting to enter into them. It's true that Haku looks like a girl, and sometimes acts like one. These facts speak for themselves and without needing any other information will show that there is plenty of room for fan groups to surface arguing that he could be a girl.
But these speak for themselves, there is no reason to put a big debate on the page that will scare readers. Conflict of Interest - You are directly tied to this debate. You head a fangroup on the whole subject. In other words it is something with a deep connection to you which you have a strong bias on. Going along with these policies, you should not be editing or engaging in discussions on these things and should just avoid them and leave them to other groups.
If this debate is big enough, someone outside of your group will come here and say that we could use some more information on the debate. I said that because Haku claimed to be something she was not a man it is proof that she lied to Naruto. That is an irrefutable fact because she was not old enough to be a man, nor did she have the mindset that she was a man as you speculate.
I disproved this as well. During her converstation with Zabuza she said, "Well I'm still just a kid so Therefore Haku did in fact think of herself as a kid, not an adult.
Which means she would have called herself a "shounen" had she been a male and had been honest with Naruto. This is nothing but speculation on your part. Aside from the fact that Haku wears a mask in battle and Kakashi assumed Haku was a boy at first glance, Haku claimed to be a boy to her enemy Naruto.
If Haku's looks were a deception, then the claim of being a male contradicts this deception. Moreover, if her looks were the deception then she would not have told Naruto otherwise, since Naruto had believed the "deception" that Haku was a girl. So your idea is not consistent with facts of the series. You are wrong.
I did not forget this. It is just that this fact is irrelevant because Haku could not have know what Naruto thought or what he could have figured out. In other words, Haku did not know that Naruto had no clue. That is the fact you seem to be forgetting. Plus, Haku knew that she and Naruto would meet again. She even stated this thought out loud. This is becuase she knew that she and Zabuza still needed to kill Tazuna and that Naruto still had to protect him.
She knew they would likely fight in battle, and in that case she could not have known how that battle would go.
Therefore she would not risk being open about her true identity. Even if there was no risk, it is contradictory to shinobi principals be open about ones self to the enemy. You references to other animes is irrelevant. You cannot use those as sources. You can only use the Naruto series as a source. Haku was drawn to be a girl in every aspect. The argument about the North American is not important to the facts of the series which indicate that Haku was female.
However, it is still a good argument. You just admitted that North America has more skittish views than Japan. I recognize this as well. However, if this is the case AND Haku had been a boy, then it would have made "him" homosexual as well.
In that case it is likely that this would have been edited out in the English version. That was my only point with that argument. And no, talking about a pervert and censoring "Naruko" are not as bad as a same-sex pairing in a kid's anime on Cartoon Network.
The FCC has a strict policy about that. Masashi Kishimoto does make strong indication that Haku loved Zabuza in a romantic way. Her compliment and blushing are proof of that. He also shows that Zabuza had feelings for Haku when Zabuza touched her cheek right before he died. Now, I don't appreciate you editing the article before even giving me a chance to respond to your questions. I also don't appreciate you calling my presentation of proof a "fanthread" and dismissing it as such.
The proof that I posted there is straight from the series. To disparage it is to disparage the series. NPOV will not work unless we set the article up as I suggested, with the debate points being referenced and the subject being recognized as being under dispute.
COI does not apply to me.
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